Household HSBC Watch

Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:48 am      

Good Day every one!

If you have any information on these companies, please inform here as I begin informing all the related authorities of their scams. and have enough evidence; yet. More is better. It is time to start a Class Action suit vs. these fraud artists as they grossed over 7 billions dollars already at our expense.

Corporations and capitalism are needed but the perversion of them is not.
Instead of being on defensive, it is time to attack them on all fronts, which is submitting not allegations but facts of their wrongdoing one by one to the Authorities.

Ex. They have Steve Hawkins in Greenville SC who signs Affidavits prepared for him by Attorneys representing Sherman/LVNV, etc. Does anyone else know him or his DOB? He can't possibly have accurate knowledge of purchases in New York as he claims he does sitting on his butt in Greenville, SC. Stores do not disclose individual purchases of Consumers under the Privacy Act.

Debt collectors may obtain general credit reports but not more unless break the law. The Issue of such fraudulent Affidavits can be attacked by facts and merit. I would give more examples next time. Meanwhile please post facts (real facts) on the wrongdoings of these firms,
You can't even imagine the power once we unite and start submitting facts to the list of Governmental Offices I have obtained who must investigate them once enough complaints are submitted.

We would do at least 10 for a start and not only FTC.

A mind is a terible thing to waste as these debt collectors went too far and too many Judges oblige them as get support from the Law firms who represent them in Courts. The united with their cause Judges went so far as accepting mere printouts on debt collector’s OWN stationaries with their names on top of the printout as real debt validation and some Judges approve that as real receipts. Don't believe me? I would post and scan such Court evidence from my case soon.

Meanwhile, submit facts and prepare copies. Their reign would soon be challenged to what they have not foreseen. Be patient.

Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:29 am      

For all who need detailed data as once accumulate enough evidence, it is time to begin Class Action vs these mutants as they went too far and against too many people:

recopied from another post: unite the efforts with all who share and try,

here it comes:

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:36 am Post subject: Time from defence to offence vs Sherman/LVNV/Resurgent

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Good Day every one!

If you have any information on these companies, please inform here as I begin informing all the related authorities of their scams. and have enough evidence; yet, more is better. It is time to start a Class Action suit vs. these fraud artists as they grossed over 7 billions dollars already at our expense. so that learn to respect Law and Consumers a bit more.
Corporations and capitalism are needed but the perversion of them is not.
Instead of being on defensive, it is time to attack them on all fronts, which is submitting not allegations but facts of their wrongdoing one by one to the Authorities.
Ex. They have Steve Hawkins in Greenville SC who signs Affidavits prepared for him by Attorneys representing Sherman/LVNV, etc. Does anyone else know him or his DOB?
He can't possibly have accurate knowledge of purchases in New York as he claims he does sitting on his but in Greenville, SC. Stores do not disclose individual purchases of Consumers under the Privacy Act.
Debt collectors may obtain general credit reports but not more unless break the law.
The Issue of such fraudulent Affidavits can be attacked by facts and merit.
I would give more examples next time. Meanwhile please post facts (real facts) on the wrongdoings of these firms,
You can't even imagine the power once we unite and start submitting facts to the list of Governmental Offices I have obtained who must investigate them once enough complaints are submitted.
We would do at least 10 for a start and not only FTC.
Mind is a terible thing to waste as these debt collectors went too far and too many Judges oblige them as get support from the Law firms who represent them in Courts.
The united with their cause Judges went so far as accepting mere printouts on debt collector’s OWN stationeries with their names on top of the printout as real debt validation and some Judges approve that as real receipts. Don't believe me?
I would post and scan such Court evidence from my case soon.
Meanwhile, submit facts and prepare copies. Their reign would soon be challenged to what they have not foreseen. Be patient.


LVNV Funding, LLC,
DBA/ Resurgent Capital Services, LP
Dba/ Alegis Group, LLC
Aka/ Sherman Financial Group, LLC
Fka/ Sherman Acquisitions
Aka/Ventus Capital Services

Addresses:
Bank of America Building
200 Meeting St., Suite #206
Charleston, SC 29401-3187

15 South Main Street, #600
Greenville, SC 29601

Phone: 888-665-0374-864-678-8421
Fax: 888-546-7697- 864-370-4998
(Phones ring at Resurgent Capital, Greenville, SC)
Websites:
http://www.lvnvfunding.com/
http://www.rcap.com/




Debt Collecting Scams

Some of the ways these companies who form multiple offices operate are:
One company would sue a Consumer for the amount close to the maximum but not quite that. The Consumer pays the debt.
In a while, an “affiliated” company, without even stating its affiliation, as it is undermining its agenda, resumes collection activity on the remainder of the account, actively adding penalties and finance charges as if authorized to do so.
Soon the inflated balance is demanded in full again.
Therefore, these companies involved in a scam control the Consumer and communicate with each other freely as these companies are owned by the same people or become joint ventures between one of the same partners and a new one as monies may be laundered into each others accounts or outside companies – anything to avoid paying proper taxes.
Having different names-companies helps these scam artists to manipulate purchased Indexes in Courts as when one is under a closer scrutiny from the Authorities or a capable defense Attorney or from a vigilant Consumer, these companies, conveniently, sell the account to another company as you guessed to themselves under a different name.
They coordinate their activities and often are well organized.

Another advantage of having an additional name-company is in the fact that when a Consumer resists their bullying tactics in Court and their fraudulent activity is questioned, the debt collectors conveniently sell an account to another company i.e. to themselves, which allows them to buy more time and produce more either fraudulent so- called evidence or obtain some private information of the Consumers in violation of law, which takes an additional time once again.

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Teresa S.



Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 2
Location: W. Columbia, SC
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:52 am Post subject: The BANDIT strikes again!

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I noticed, upon pulling my credit report today, that I, too have been hit. I have filed a complaint with the FTC, 3-Credit Bureaus, and MCI. Being in South Carolina, I have tried all types of investigative searches, but I could not find any additional information. Please let me know if you, or anyone else, find out anything.

Thanks,

Teresa

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SharingLights



Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 43
Location: NY
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:56 am Post subject: please be precise

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Good day!

We have a substantial information as are doing extensive research on these firms.
Please provide details what exactly they violated in your case and what ar you looking for?
WE have to be fair to both sides: facts vs allegations.
They go by hearsay vs. Consumers to ofthen.
We, Consumers who fight back - go by facts only.
If need more privacy, respond to the email: SharingLights@yahoo.com

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Teresa S.



Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 2
Location: W. Columbia, SC
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: LVNV Funding

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They have an MCI account on my credit report from 2000 in the amount of $515.00. I have NEVER had an MCI account, and when I called MCI, they confirmed that they had nothing under my name or phone number. Due to 2 other fraudulent accounts in NC with other companies, I have turned this over to the FTC for further investigation (Identity Theft).

Thanks.

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SharingLights



Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 43
Location: NY
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: Power is when within msves outwards

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Good day to all!
May the night be good too, (:

Sorry for the spelling errors as I had to be in Court today vs. these mutants and lack of sleep wasn’t helping.
There is much information gathered on what these scavengers do to people as believe it or not, a substantial portion of their illegitimate business: extortion like tactics comes from threatening, harassing Consumers who owe them zero.
Unfortunately many Judges oblige these mutants as corruption is a reality.
When these mutants gain support of such Judges who get in return either monies under the table or support for reappointment are even re-election, a typical Consumer is faced with the fall just drives him/her insane.
Either pays the extortion fees to such debt collectors as we refer to the – “mutants” since they don’t follow basic laws and rules of even shred of decency but engage in beyond garbage tactics, an average Consumer is forced to hire an Attorney. What happens then? A catch 22 as either the Citizen pays the extortion fee to the mutant or may pay about the same if not more to the hired Attorney.
So where is Justice?
The precise and realistic answer is below. Follow it if you are fed up wit the mutants who breed and pollute our country, while Courts in the name of the People and supported by taxpayers’ monies, gang up on the People themselves.
Submit copies of the document from the direct sources which confirm your innocence –that you did not owe the account or amount. Anything based on facts that a Governmental official can verify. Play a devil’s advocate.
If anyone who has access to your accurate records and what the mutants may report or even alter, will see that truth is on your side, scan the proof and email to us.
If you are not comfortable as it is understandable cross the vital lines of address, SS$, just keep partial data available. The goal is to have a document that proves the mutants to be wrong.
We are accumulating such. Once again please sent only truthful data as some any people depend on that.
We volunteer our time and efforts as someone must take the stand vs. these thieves and extortionists.
As you have us, ready, willing, and able, add your efforts of:
1) Accurate data submission to reveal the scavengers in their true light.
2) AS we would help you to a substantial degree, help another person who would be in your situation.
3) As car and kindness and ability to stand for your rights would translate into something positive, don’t listen to those folks who only cry and complain. Believe, learn, and try and the result would be just.
4) As we are actively contacting the FTC, Attorney Generals. Consumer Business Bureaus, in the States where the scavengers rampage, the increasing number of legitimate complaints vs., these mutants would ring an alarm in the organizations. Whether they care or not, they would be forced to take real actions as numbers are power. One complaint may not do much. 100 would – we guarantee.
5) The power of the scavengers is that they are organized and feed each other, they are stingy towards you not toward each other as pay generously al those who a part of their scam. They are simply practical – not kind. Efficient bribes allow them to milk the system for a while.
6) Once too many complaints, they pull the same, old trick which they nurture early.
7) They simply form about 5 firms in different States with almost the same name; yet, a different firm. Example in our case would be: Sherman Acquisition, II, LL, Sherman Originator, Sherman Financial, Sherman Financial Group, Sherman Acquisitions, and Sherman Acquisition few variations of LLC or LP.
Now, look what’s going on. By laws of incorporation, they are firms which are independent from the people who own them as they are their employees even if run them from a-to z. That is to protect vs. laws suits and limit criminal persecution to some degree.
9) They can launder monies into each other accounts, play with taxes, and do things you have never heard of.
10) When things get hot, they switch their main activity to another firm, which didn’t catch fire yet, the other one is dissolved.
11) Note, here is the part that fails them a bit. Sometimes they get so greedy that actually continue extort monies from us all and even us to Courts. They utilize about 200 attorney firms with the same attitude so you know whom you a re against in a Court – another scavenger –now only with an attorney license.
12) Firms that do not exist anymore on record make millions of dollars by these tactics.
13) Here is their hole that they dig themselves: as smart as they think they are, all corporate record are maintained with the Governmental Authorities. The Secretary of State, Consumer Divisions who monitor debt collection licencing, and such would always have accurate records of these firms and who formed them.
14) Once we provide solid proof that they do extort, manipulative, engage in activity which is called – violating the pertinent laws of the Sate and, particularly, Federal as FTC’ laws are for example, the Authorities would be compelled to look at the situation as not individual complaints but as an assault of the Federal Government rights or such. Another word, our power is the fact that one or two cases may not get protection but a 100 and more would create a tsunami wave in the face of these scavengers who were spiting in ours for too long.
15) Having stated that, and explaining the basics, we would add that have done a solid research of whom and how to contacts efficiently, once again, ewe talk of honest, actual data only, as to bring these mutants to Justice.
16) The two main steps are:
a) active submissions of violations on record to the Authorities,
b) moving in for Class action which is a lawsuit not for one but for many on the same grounds. The reality is that we may or may not see any monies but the mutants would have to pay heavy restitution fines to the Government for sure and would be closed down.
17) Do not worry that they have 10 other firms waiting in the wings. The records
would prove and lead to the real owners sooner or later as active pursuit is faster
than their active formation-dissolving.
1 Organize your data-records, re-check what is true and not, submit facts.
19) If can, please contact those you know who have the same problem with dishonest, out of control corporate greed of these scavengers.
20) remember, when you look away, you help them to hurt so many other innocent folks who work hard for their monies, often single mothers with children barely meeting their end to wind up paying extortion to these mutants. Is that discent, is that justice?
21) Forget your differences, color of skin, or faith, - step forward as one united front – Citizens for Reinstatement of their Rights which too many corporations consistently take away. Even the idea of banks of charging you fees for you giving them you r money on which they make solid profit while paying you’re a joke on your accounts is ridiculous in nature if think of it. That’s another subject. Let’s start with debt collectors. WE can run them out of business as they have no legal right to extort as they do. If law is truly followed, no Court can give them a Judgment. Why and how, we will explain later. Meanwhile submit facts and scans, particularly any Affidavits they manufacture against you. One active guy fro Sherman/LVNV is Steve Hawkins of Greenville, SC. WE are contacting Attorney general about his scam for Sherman/LVNV.

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shorti



Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 1

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject:

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I recently requested a Settle in full letter from Ventus Capital Services. In return I promised to send them a Western Union Quick collect. The reason I sent a WU, was so that they would get the money immediately and then fax me a Settle in Full Paid letter. I went through ***** to get the fax. When I finally got the fax it stated as follows:

Thank you for your payment regarding the above account. The final payment for this account was received on (date).

This letter will verify that the above referenced account is considered settled.

This communication is from a debt collector. This is an attempt to collect a debt and any information obtained will be used for that purpose.




Anyways, my concern now is that, yes, I got a letter. But my letter has no signiture. 'Should that be a concern of mine? I spoke with some director of the company and he told me that they do not sign their letters. How do I know they will not try to come at me for the balance on the account. Now that they have gotten their money, they all are being so rude and refuse to give me any answers to any of my questions. Who the ***** do I talk to? The letter is needed for my Mortgage company so that I can get approved for my loan. Without this letter being official, I am screwed. HELP!!!
_________________
shorti

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SharingLights



Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 43
Location: NY
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: Never give up

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I wish you contacted us before.
Ventus is not in business anymore. They had you.
Now, you are not the 1 st not the last.
Good things would still happen.
1) Follow money trace with WU.
Any such store will give you a form or go to their website.
Usually about $12 is charged for the trace.
You will have the guarantee who cashed it if request a copy of the front and back also.
If you are willing, we (as Consumers as you are) will help you to file charges vs. them.
It takes a while, but you may get your monies back as out business firms commit fraud when collect and you will help others not get screwed as we all can bring them to justice together.
What’s you r decision?
Meanwhile can you scan what have: their letters, your money order stub or copy made anything on record?
When you pay debt collectors – there never guarantee on anything as they are not the original party with whom you made a contract. Only original party has authority to remove your debt.
It may disappear from your credit report via statue of limitations but even then the original part theoretically may demand that from you unless mad an insurance claim.

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SharingLights



Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 43
Location: NY
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: debt collectors conenction /Civil Court of NY: Kings County

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Uncivilized Court Of New York: the Wild Zoo Department:

Chain of event:
Monkey Court for 03/29/06.

Respondent –r
Judge (her honor) (ps, her dishonor) – j
Plaintiff: p.

r: Good day j, may I please review my file as I would like to make sure ll of my motions and of the plaintiff are there?
j: why do you need that
r: (in his mind – because that God damn it is my Constitutional right and you, national inquirer, has no right to question my right to see what is there against me or if my papers are intact)
r: aloud: because p. is not being too honest and I d like to verify their statement by record.
j: you may not review the file. this is Summary Judgment.
r: But why can’t I when really need that for my defense. p stated that they don’t have to respond to my motion as the judge issued such order. May I see please, that order?
j: I told you – no! - no “but”
????????????????????????????????
r: can you ask the p if p represents Sherman and act as their attorney?
silence in return
p is getting red.
r: can you ask p if their client is a licensed debt collector in NY?
silence as j is ignoring anything r. ask.
r: can you please ask the p if can produce the evidence of existence of Sherman?
silence as in the vastness of deep space.
r: ok, j as you do not ask and p doesn’t answer I ll state so:
neither Sherman exists anymore nor was or is licensed. so how can they collect any debt?
j: is that’s all you can say?
r: how about some answers first?
silence r: may I give you the proof of what I stated? I have it here.
j: nop
???????????????????????????????????????????
r: in his mind (fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff that ssssssssssssssssssssssssss)
r: aloud – ok j, then let me say this: the p relies on affidavit by their main witness: stevie wonder, sorry Hawkins. Steve Hawkins please come upfront.
p; getting even redder.
all turn heads.
r: Steve where are you?
r: by law, no affidavit may be accepted if witness is absent as can’t be cross-examined. Plus how can he know in his Greenville Sc what I did in Brooklyn, NY on that day he alleges. Is he psychic?
j: is that’s al you can offer as defense?
r: no, have another question; how is that possible that the so called agreement doesn’t have my signature on it. An agreement, any, means two parties or more agree to something in writing and signatures are required. Where is my signature? How that could be accepted in Court as evidence?
j: already annoyed before r. opened his mouth as her decision was made by the facts which attorney appeared before her…….
is that all?
r: not enough to start questioning the p?
ok, I ll say more. Do you know something j? The so called agreement is dated 9/2001 by the p handwriting. Here are records pertaining to Best Buy. There was no Best Buy in Brooklyn on 9/2001. There was Waldbaums supermarket there at Ceasar’s Bazaar.
Best Buy opened in Brooklyn on 11/15/2002. Here are two copies. May I give them to you?
j: nop.
r: in his mind (fffffff that sssssss, sssssss that ffffffffff, what the *****, what the ffffff??????)
r: aloud: p is involved in fraud affecting dif states. I already contacted FTC, Attorney General, investigation is underway.
j: ok, I heard enough, wait for my decision in mail.



ps. the Judge with the name King acted as a simple ……. She forgot her roots and what people endured to abuse her authority, practicing monkey court because she needs her re-appointment from the law firm that helps her to achieve that as they feed each other.


My mood? No way am I giving up. Next appointment is with Attorney General regarding Sherman adn their reps: Forster & Garbus law firm and questions about the judge. Fight is on till someone wakes up as and I have to do it for all as I am not sure who others would handle when a proof of non-existence of firm and Best Buy moving in a year later is not enough to this ………How many people snap at such travesty?
I was so optimistic knowing that would get before a Judge from the roots so to say.
Corruption knows no color.


ps. Update.

Some of my Motions dissappeared from the Court file.
Some were mailed back to me. That is called tampering with the Court Records, punishable by the Penal Code.
I had enough of these imposters of law.
I am actively contacting the Governmental Officials now.
Let's see who would respond?
A copy is further down.

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sistershane



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 11
Location: New York
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject:

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Hi-
I read with great interest the mention of Forster and Garbus..
I have gone round and round with these people re: their tactics as a collection agency-they walk the line-and sometimes over..believe me!
One of my creditors was put with them..i joined a Debt management/credit counseling firm to handle all my creditors-they tried to convince Forster and garbus to agree to a certain monthly payment(from me to them to Garbus)-they refused-said they wanted a monthly outrageous amount-which if i could've afforded it-i wouldn't be with a debt management. Anyway-i requested a debt validation from them-went back and forth-they just slapped my bank accounts with an information subpoena-freezing everything-said i could avoid further problems/judgement/fees if i paid a certain amount owed-i paid-!
then i found that there is a class action lawsuit now against them that involves California and NY residents for shady and sometimes not totally legal debt collection practices-little not so legal technicalities-things were mentioned that got by me(and i thought i knew my rights!)...
Here's the lawsuit..below..and i'm joining it-believe me!

A class action covering California and New York has been filed in New York against collection specialists Forster & Garbus. The action is brought on behalf of all California and New York residents who received form type collection letters from Forster & Garbus which offered to settle the consumers' alleged debt for a lesser amount. The action is brought under the federal Fair Labor Standards Act and seeks statutory damages as well as injunctive and declaratory relief.

According to consumers, Forster & Garbus have engaged in misleading, deceptive and unfair practices in their efforts to collect alleged consumer debts for the benefit of third parties. The consumers allege that Forster & Garbus included in their initial collection letters an offer to settle the alleged debt for a lesser amount. However, the consumers claim that this offer contained specific time limits on accepting the settlement. The consumers claim that by including specific time limits for accepting the settlement offer, Forster & Garbus are engaging in misleading conduct. According to the consumers, it would be possible to contact the creditor directly at any time and settle their debt. Additionally, the consumers allege that by stating in their letters that payment is to be made directly to Forster & Garbus, consumers are lead to believe that they can only settle these claims directly with the collecting attorneys, when, in fact, the consumers assert that they could settle their debts with the creditor directly. Finally, the consumers allege that the letters generated by Forster & Garbus lead readers to believe that an actual attorney has reviewed their file. However, according to the consumers, the letters are "form" type and are generated by non-legal staff members.

Under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, any misleading, unfair, deceptive or untrue representations made in an effort to collect a debt are strictly forbidden. Additionally, any representations made with the intent to coerce consumers into making payments are equally forbidden. According to the consumers, the representations made by Forster & Garbus as part of their initial collection letters were both misleading and made in an effort to coerce consumers into making immediate payments.

Register your Forster Garbus Complaint(lawcash.com)
If you or someone you know has been affected by this case, you may qualify for a money settlement as the result of your financial/economic or other damages that may be awarded either prior to a lawsuit or after the initiation of a lawsuit either currently in progress or filed just for you, possibly a class action lawsuit.

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SharingLights



Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 43
Location: NY
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: Be careful with www.lawcash.com

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Hello to you!

The site www.lawcash.com seems to be close to scam itself.
Be careful with them:

1) Legitimate lawyers do not charge fees for membership to use their site.
2) Either consignment or pay upfront for the representation is used by real ones - not for website membership.
3) They list so many Class Actions that thousands of lawyers may not handle that timely.
4) Could not find an e-mail to e-mail them.
5) Overall- too strange -too suspicious as most likely, they make monies on memberships and probably refer cases to others on some fee from those.

If can, ask them what did happen to Forster & Garbus lawsuit or Class Action?

We are getting ready to bring Class Action vs. them as they are not licensed debt collectors in NY as well as represented unlicensed debt collectors: Sherman variations of that name and LVNV Funding LLC.
If you have concrete data on them, e-mail to Sharinglights@yahoo.com
This is not so much about money as to bring them to Justice for all they have done.

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sistershane



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 11
Location: New York
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:29 am Post subject:

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I understand your concern on the website...my insights as well as to the membership/e-mail also re: lawcash. I do understand there is a lawsuit on Forster/Garbus..i did not join the website..but i am getting in on that class action lawsuit one way or another..,i noticed in reserch that Forster/Garbus have had a lot of these types of complaints filed against them..
problem is i'm unable as of yet to find it..
i do understand that Forster/Garbus is a licensed debt collector/attorney/law firm in NY state-Garbus signed all the summons/judgement papers..though on their correspondence i don't see a license number..do you know for sure they have no license...because in that case Bank of America-who is my creditor(their client) is also at fault for hiring them to represent them..and Forster and Garbus could be countersued by me for breaking the law in misrepresentation.! Right?

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sistershane



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 11
Location: New York
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:06 am Post subject:

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well..!
Since my last post i did some more research..
found out that not all states require a license to be a debt collector..and NY State is one of them. for info/help on all this..
Go to:
Http://www.creditinfocenter.com/rebuild/debt_validation.shtml
Http://www.residentagentinfo.com
http://www.creditinfo.com/rebuild/statelawrefs.doc

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sistershane



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 11
Location: New York
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:17 am Post subject:

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Sorry..seems NYC is an exception to license rule...
this really can get confusing..???

http://www,collectionagency.lifetips.com

New York Collection Agency Laws
Want to learn more about state by state debt recovery? What about debt recovery in New York?Following is some important information on New York debt collection laws including: New York Statute of Limitations, New York Judgments, New York Garnishments, New York Interest Rates, New York Bad Check Laws and New York Collection Agency Requirements.

INTEREST RATE
Legal: 16%
Judgment: 9%

STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS (IN YEARS)
Open Acct.: 6
Written Contract: 6
Domestic Judgment: 20 (1 0 yr. renewable lien)
Foreign Judgment: 20 (1 0 yr. renewable lien)

BAD CHECK LAWS (CIVIL PENALTY)
Face value of check plus two times check amount up to a maximum of $400 on NSF or $750 on "no account" (Demand prescribed by law). GEN.OB.1.1-104

GENERAL GARNISHMENT EXEMPTIONS
90% of earnings, except 1st $127.50 wk. wholly exempt.

COLLECTION AGENCY BOND & LICENSE
Bond: No
License: No
Fee: No
Buffalo: $5,000 Bond - $50 fee
NYC: License - $150 - 2 yr. fee

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sistershane



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 11
Location: New York
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:18 am Post subject:

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Forster and Garbus are in farmindale..that i deal with...so does this exclude/include license requirement?

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SharingLights



Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 43
Location: NY
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: Be active; yet, patient & we will bring them to Justice

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Good day to all,
particularly to those who do not cry in vain but do research and listen to those who share knowledge already acquired.

Fact 1) By the laws of the State of NY, any debt collector must be licensed and registered with the DCA - dept of Consumer Affairs.

Fact 2) Neither Forster & Garbus, not Sherman or LVNV are licensed.
We have the official letter/statement from the DCA. received on 03/29/06

Forster is in Farmingdale, NY; therefore, must comply with the laws of the State.


Fact 3) The stated above firms break the law due to that fact and no one should pay such violators a penny, period - they are not entitled by law.

All who did pay them in NY or TX (and maybe in other States) but we know for a fact that they broke these two States' laws should demand their monies back throught Courts and FTC.

Fact 4) All of them have numerous complaints.

Arguments: complaints may not mean substance; yet, number of violations of law by the above is on the record.
Such record is of substance and validity in Court or presented to the Governmental Authorities.

Direction: all the violations must be retained and joined together for one, united Class Action.
Do not rush to any lawyers yet as not many are descent - as simple as that unless know a trully honest lawyer.
Let' organize and collect evidence first.

Fact 5) Too often Courts are corrupted and allow such firms to get away with violations.

Direction: never get discouraged. Expect such and be prepared.
Best defense is collecting facts as sooner or later; we can present them to the right party.
Also, keep in mind, that there are decent Judges too and we will find them as well.
Keep faith, be ready, persistent and calm.

Unity is the key now as these firms went too far and for too long.
A fist can do more damage than a finger....

We will bring them to Justice and have accumulated some information to proceed but still need more cases and data.
Copy, scan anything important,
Black magic marker sensitive personal data and if can scan and e-mail to SharingLights@yahoo.com

There is no way that the Authorities will look away, when we will present even 10 solid cases of violating rights of 10 Citizens.
One solid case may not be enough.

We gave you the good advice by facts and common sense.

Soon, we will publish a well organized website with Sherman/LVNV and such/Forster & Garbus precise data and pertinent law and links.

This is the beginning of their end of reining as abusers of our rights as they actually break laws every day.
We have dealt with them in the Civil Court of NY: Kings County for about a year and only speak of the actual evidence and not hearsay.

Keep up correspondence with us and all who make sense.

As seeds grow slowly but when the conditions are right just blossom and turn into real plants and flowers, the same with any process.

You work, you try, may not see the results, but, once the time is right, suddenly, you shall see the fruits of all of the efforts.

We shall bring them to Justice - period - and they are not getting away this time as abused too many people and by too dirty tactics.

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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject:

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why does what i found say NY debt collectors don't need a license-this came from a collection laws website-each state has different laws on it.
I had dealings similar with Forster and Garbus-many yrs ago-these people have been around a long time-why/how could they get away with this all this time without someone immediately reporting them-during all these years? Why hasn't the FTC and attorney general done anything about them over the course of all these years if they're not legal?

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sistershane



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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject:

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Sharinglights-you're right-i filed a complaint with DCA-ny
i'm a go on all this...keep me informed-
we are taking these *&%$# down!
Thank you for your information and action thus far!

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SharingLights



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Posts: 43
Location: NY
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject: Unity is the key! Literaly

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Sharinglights-you're right-i filed a complaint with DCA-ny

(Please follow my experience if that's ok with you as I truly mean well to all on the level of not loud words but how to achieve the most productive results.
Before, you submit anything to the Authorities, please scan & e-mail us a copy.
Then, we will submit that together. Yours and ours.
Even two, legitimate complaints of violations are better and have more attention catching than one.
The mutants (as we refer to these debt collectors) get away with so much as we are not united.
They affect and abuse thousands of us even her in NY, I bet in tens of thousands.
Let's get our papers organized and united.
Then, we will have leverage.
We will submit them then to the FTC, Senate and Congress, etc too, which we had to do alone for now.
Not only we will bring law upon the mutants then and only then but we will lobby for the change in law and more protection to Consumers as we do not have enough.
We have done our research and are loaded to unleash power but we need more cases as power is in numbers and unity when deal with bureaucracy.
Believe us, truth and law is not enough - in NY, there is so much corruption on all levels that people would be shocked if find out truth.
Please, we stress again and again, email us the complaints and evidence.





i'm a go on all this...keep me informed-
we are taking these *&%$# down! Mad

(Only if you would follow the options we share with you that can work in reality. We tell Judges in Court that these people are not licensed and don't even exist as firms but are dissolved as in case of Sherman Acquisition but the Judge replied. "Is that's all?"
They support each other.
We must, MUST, unite, and then we can bring them down. For now, they bring us down as give us ***** literally.)


Thank you for your information and action thus far!

Let’s help not only each other but all who need it regardless of the race, color. gender or
anything. One requirement only – be decent.

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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: Important articles from the people who know what write about

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LARGE GROUP AWARENESS TRAINING IN RADICAL THERAPY FOR VICTIMS OF LEGAL AND GOVERNMENT ABUSE
A PROPOSAL
By David Grossack
More people are beginning to realize that in every respect we all live on what can best called a "Global Plantation," based on social systems in which those who control resources and wealth of the world are perpetrators of large scale legal and government abuse that serves to perpetuate rule by elites. Further, what many people do not realize is that aside from the war, pollution, epidemics, and poverty, the social systems imposed upon us by the elites produce emotional sickness.
They produce psychological depression, anxiety, substance abuse, sexual problems, obesity, and many other forms of disturbance that plague millions of people across the globe.
The mechanisms for this are quite simple. The stress of living in highly regulated societies, with a predatory legal system results in a population which reflects the mental conditions of wounded, exploited, and bullied people. Moreover, we are tracked and watched through computers, and increasingly the entire industrialized world is being videotaped and monitored constantly. This is the beginning of a dehumanization process to which will alienate us from our individual nature and reduce us to cogs of production wheels in their factories, offices and other companies.
The disturbances may come about from being a party in a long, protracted, and ugly lawsuit. This now afflicts millions of people in the United States.
The disturbance may come about from a random IRS audit (or several of them!)
The disturbance may come about through extortion by a bureaucrat, or false arrest, or "forfeiture of assets", because a stranger used your property for an allegedly criminal purpose.
Marriages are torn apart by the stress of coping with the abuses of government and the legal system, relationships with friends, relatives, children, and the ability to enjoy life can be twisted inside out.
Our potential to live happy, productive, and fulfilled lives is being robbed from us every day by a malignant and parasitic class of lawyers, judges, and government officials who are in their essence second tier masters on the Global Plantation.
We are the victims.
But too few people realize the victimization becomes a psychological problem, that is, a problem that affects your mind and your behavior.
Once they rob us of our peace of mind and dignity, once they make us sick, we need a healing process.
I believe, as do many mental health professionals, that the most effective therapy for emotional disturbance caused by government and legal abuse is radical and militant activism directed against its sources, wherever that may lead.
What do I mean by "radical activism." I refer to picketing, demonstrations, sit-ins, organizing public communications, and in general the kind of conduct that transforms society, produces changes, and puts the wrongdoers on the defensive.
When you suffer in silence, when you allow the wrongs to stand without seeking redress and accountability, when you avoid demanding justice, you have become part of the problem.
You have told yourself that you will set aside reclaiming your dignity and demanding justice for whatever reason. But you have essentially betrayed yourself and accepted being a victim. That cannot possibly be an emotionally healthy decision. It is also likely to produce serious physiological symptoms over time.
Hours of traditional psychoanalysis will not ever be as therapeutic as organizing a picket line.
Prescription anti-depressants may help, but they are only masking the source of the problem.
Some people feel self-conscious about being in public. Others feel they ought to pray for those that hurt them. These thoughts are, in effect, self-destructive as they serve to perpetuate the victimization.
To where do we trace the origins of our problems?
On a daily basis, the face of the Global Plantation deceives. While a policeman, lawyer, or government functionary may appear to be oppressive, and can certainly act accordingly, the Phaoronic pyramidical structure of the "System" leads upwards.
But the string pullers behind events are not always transparent. The identification and role of power elites in the United States as well as in al other countries has become a subject of both academic and popular focus. Because the power elites play such a significant and arguably destructive role, and have earned the legitimate wrath of billions of people, the activism we prescribe need be directed, at least in part, at them.
They are the foundation heads, media moguls, and political power brokers. They are the controllers of multinational conglomerates, financiers of major political parties, and intelligence czars. They are the folks who own and govern the Global Plantation at the highest levels.
They are formidable adversaries and they will break the law and perjure and murder and conspire and never be held accountable except by the people. They, for all practical purposes, own the courts. The policies of local judges are directed through large institutional think tanks in Virginia, Washington D.C. and Santa Barbara, California, not at the grassroots.
To those who shy away from rebellion, I say you are going to miss the greatest of human endeavors, and your illness will remain. To those who want to be healed, get a sign, get a pen or go to your computer or fax machine, and start agitating.
There is a process for launching this on a massive scale that the legal reform movement needs to consider, right now, today, to win back our Constitutional freedoms and rights.
I believe large-scale awareness training, such as the techniques used in the human potential movement, are of immense value. There is a branch of psychology known as radical therapy which must be utilized where people resolve the psychological wounds to them by becoming activists. I am beginning this process to deal with the retaliation brought to my household for exercising First Amendment rights. The world cannot wait for business as usual to solve these problems and we have a mission, a burden to use evangelical terms. To turn their System upside down. The tools are there, money will not be a problem, and we will produce thousands of activists with a heightened consciousness to take on the Establishment.
I want to do this project. As the son of a radical psychologist and as a lawyer activist for may years I believe I am qualified. If we work together, we can change the system and heal ourselves in the process.
David C. Grossack Nantasket Beach, MA
The author,David Grossack is an artist and lawyer and the founder of Citizens' Justice Institute. He is the author of Radical Planet and How to Win A Lawsuit Without Hiring A Lawyer. See his websites at: citizensjustice.com and grossack.com

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sistershane



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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:05 am Post subject:

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most likely-the fact they are licensed attorneys-will be seen as they have a license to be debt collectors, too.
ie; attorneys who are bankruptcy specialists.

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SharingLights



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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: I ve a copy from the DCA; Forster is not licensed debt colle

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The answer is "no" according to the DCA of NY as they specifically stated that Forster is not licensed Debt Collector.

They need a separate license for that.
These ....... must be sued on those grounds too as that would classify as if a doctor, let's say, had no license, and collected money from his/her patients.
They must return any monies earned that way -not through regular law practice but on such grounds.
The Judge: Kathy King delays ruling on my case on purpose even though it does not even qualify for "Summary Judgment" as it's called so that, I believe, she can give Forsterr more time to apply for a license.The Civil Court of NY: Kings County is where they are connected and pull virtually anything. I fight not only them but corrupt Judges who allow them anything including being informed that they are not licensed.
I started informing Congress and the Senate. Can you and you friends make such submissions for all of us as numbers would translate into investigating them?
Can you? Then, I will you give you exact links and even prepared text of facts only as have proof and only go by facts.
We must inform the DCA (Dept of Consumer Affairs) of all things done improperly but this law firm, which are true so that the DCA would deny them the license.
They have horrible record with the BBB of NY (Better Business Bureau) as operate under two names.
They have numerous complaints from people all over I am sure left and right.
Try to find anything wrong done by them via the Internet reports by keying their names and save the copies.
I saw how they act in Court and how they openly perjury themselves.
Let' give a stand to them as people can stand for their rights.
Are you ready?
I will post exact links in the late evening.

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sistershane



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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:

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Yes, would like the links-Thank you for your info-
i've already reported them to our NY attorney general and FTC and DCA.

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sistershane



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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject:

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Do you think Mark Garbus is a licensed debt collector-even if Forster isn't?
Mark Garbus(only) signed some of the pre-judgement papers sent to me-

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SharingLights



Joined: 16 Mar 2006
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Location: NY
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: I guess I confused you

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Hello dear.

I may have confused you by abbreviations.
I mean in reality the law firm as the whole.
The Law Firms sues us supossdly representinga client-principal.
It doesn't mater which attorney shows up from them.
The law firm as stated in their complaint is not licensed according to the DCA:

Forster & Garbus


Address: 500 Bi-County Blvd
Farmingdale, NY 11735-3931


Phone: (516) 393-9400

Fax: (516) 393-9490

E-mail:


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Other Offices Attorneys

Attorneys:

Antonucci, Russell J.
Dworkin, Howard S.
Forster, Ronald
Garbus, Mark Alan
Shepherd, Russell W. Jr.


Other Offices:

Forster & Garbus
Suite 201, PO Box 1001, 1201 Sussex Turnpike, Mount Freedom, New Jersey 07970-1001
(973) 895-4100

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SharingLights



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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: Part One on the law firm

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In search result on BBB NY site enter the name of the firm as direct links may not work reprinted.
So I copy the info below.


http://www.newyork.bbb.org/reports/businessreports.aspx?id=59984&pid=44&page=0&FindStr=forster+%26+garbus&SearchBy=company&Address=&City=farmingdale&Phone1=&Phone2=&Phone3=&MembersOnly=False

FORSTER & GARBUS
500 Bi County Blvd. -Suite 300
Farmingdale, NY 11735
View Location Map


Original Business Start Date: 1/1/1971
Principal: Ronald Forster, Partner
Phone Number: (631) 393-9400
Additional Phone Numbers:
(800) 245-9943 (631) 393-9466
Fax Number: (631) 393-9490
Type of Business: Collection Agencies
Membership Status: This company is not a member.


The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.
Nature of Business
Foster & Garbus has informed the BBB that it is affiliated with "Professional Credit Services, Inc.", which is owneed and operated by the same principals and is also located at 500 Bi County Blvd., Ste. 350,Farmingdale. According to the firms'principals, both firms opearte indepentently of each other. A separate report is available on "Professional Credit Services, Inc."
Customer Experience
The company's size, volume of business, and number of transactions may have a bearing on the number of complaints received by the BBB. The number of complaints filed against a company may not be as important as the type of complaints, and how the company handled them. The BBB generally does not pass judgment on the validity of complaints filed.
Complaint Outcome Statistics:
Complaint Outcome Last 12 Months Last 12..36 Months Total
Resolved
Consumer received the requested resolution 2 7 9
Administratively Judged Resolved
The Company has responded to the complaint(s) addressing the disputed issues, however, the consumer remains dissatisfied 2 2 4
TOTAL 4 9 13
Complaint Issues:
Please understand that complaints may concern more than one issue
Complaint Issue Last 12 Months Last 12..36 Months Total
Credit or Billing Disputes 3 9 12
Service Issues 1 0 1
TOTAL 4 9 13
Report as of: 4/20/2006

Copyright © 2006 BBB of Metropolitan New York, Inc.
As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not endorse any product, service, or company. BBB reports generally cover a three-year reporting period, and are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information contained in this report is believed reliable but not guaranteed as to accuracy. Reports are subject to change at any time.
The Better Business Bureau reports on members and non-members. Membership in the BBB is voluntary, and members must meet and maintain BBB standards. If a company is a member of the BBB, it is stated in this report.

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SharingLights



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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject: part two on the law firm; they are under two names

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http://www.newyork.bbb.org/reports/businessreports.aspx?pid=44

PROFESSIONAL CREDIT SERVICES, INC.
500 Bi-County Blvd.-Ste. 350
Farmingdale, NY 11735
View Location Map


Original Business Start Date: 12/1/1991

Principal: Ronald Forster, President

Phone Number: (631) 393-9500

Fax Number: (631) 393-9490

Type of Business: Collection Agencies

Membership Status: This company is not a member.




The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.

Nature of Business
Foster & Garbus, located at 500 Bi County Blvd., Ste. 300, Farmingdale, has informed the BBB that it is affiliated with this firm, Professional Credit Services, Inc., which is owned and operated by the same principals. According to the firms' principals, the two firms operate independently of each other. A separate report is available on Forster & Garbus.

Customer Experience

Based on BBB files, this business has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau, because there is a pattern of complaints, and the business has not corrected the underlying reason for the complaints.

The company's size, volume of business, and number of transactions may have a bearing on the number of complaints received by the BBB. The number of complaints filed against a company may not be as important as the type of complaints, and how the company handled them. The BBB generally does not pass judgment on the validity of complaints filed.

Complaint Outcome Statistics:

Complaint Outcome Last 12 Months Last 12..36 Months Total
Resolved
Consumer received the requested resolution 0 13 13
Resolved
Consumer received part of the requested resolution 0 3 3
Administratively Judged Resolved
The Company has responded to the complaint(s) addressing the disputed issues, however, the consumer remains dissatisfied 1 5 6
No Response
The Company has failed to respond to complaints 1 1 2
TOTAL 2 22 24
Complaint Issues:

Please understand that complaints may concern more than one issue

Complaint Issue Last 12 Months Last 12..36 Months Total
Credit or Billing Disputes 2 21 23
Service Issues 0 1 1
TOTAL 2 22 24
Additional Business Names

This firm also does business under the following names. This is not necessarily a complete list.

P.C.S., Inc.

Report as of: 4/20/2006

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SharingLights



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Location: NY
Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: I keep saying what will work the best and no one listens

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We need to write a statement to which attach facts and we all sign the same letters -
together (all the people whose rights are violated.)
Then we submit that to Attorney General, FTC, etc.

Separate letters would not catch the same attention as the joined ones.
I give the solutions and still no reply.
We can not achieve much being separated but together, we will force the Government literally to take actions right away as numbers can produce that.
Rarely the same Officers read different letters and there is much bureaucracy there too.
Look at it this way: few separate bullets vs. one huge bomb that explodes...

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sistershane



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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:04 am Post subject:

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BUT-can't one of the attorney's have a debt license-where/thereby the others/law firm not have it-thereby this one attorney in the firm(forster/garbus) be qualified-
somehow/somewhere they're getting away with a technicality..i suspect..

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SharingLights



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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: using logic is great and you never loose with that.

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Good comment and qst.

1) Yet, the Court Summons is filed by the law firm and such must be licensed as the party (firm) we believe.

If one lawyer filed law suit vs. you independently, then, a different story but most lawyers hide behind a law firm anyway for their protection.

2) Forster & Garbus file suits claiming to represent their clients (just read the Court Summons) and collect for them.

3) Such Principal must be licensed debt collector in the particular State as a law firm only represents the former.

4) Yet, there may be a possibility that F&G may retain some collections for themselves. If that's the case, we can nail them for Court's fraud

5) ex. They took us to Court for Sherman Acquisition II, LP, which is dissolved firm since the June/July//2005; therefore, any collections means either, a) they embezzle monies themselves
or b) pass on to a different firm and that is still a violation as they claimed on record to represent Sherman...

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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:14 am Post subject: Message for all re: debt collectors and justice:

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1) Do not doubt for a minute that there are people who have desire and ability to do what's right and not to look away and who do not get discouraged no mater what.

2) Any time you meet crooks in your life, it would, also, grants a chance to bring you descent people too as balance is the Higher law.

3) When you make efforts to help some one else, another person will help you one day - as the law of: common chain and circle of events is real.

4) When crooks push too far, sooner or later, they run into those who would put them back in their place.

5) Real power is in concentrated efforts as even messages here on the same subject, begin to produce concrete results. (One subject and persistence of addressing it patiently)

6) Once you accumulate enough evidence vs. (in this case)
Sherman/LVNV/Resurgent and their, so called affiliates, and their attorneys who abuse their license as that is what they do, here, Forster & Garbus law firm in NY and such, we will file charges and evidence with all the pertinent authorities one by one.

7) Class Action will happen vs. them as not for so much making monies on them as to bring enough attention of the Federal Courts so that laws can be changed to protect Consumers indeed and not claim that they protect as they don't in the case of debt collection.
Debt collectors laugh at the FTC in Courts. That must change and only enough united efforts can do so.

We truly intend to insist on formation of the Investigation Committee and requested so of the Congress to look into the nationwide debt collections abuse as such collection by private, greedy, law breaking parties with so much room for abuse, as they pay so little for getting so much that while that does not benefit the US or public but only the corrupted firms and their enablers as many Judges in Courts do help them by breaking the laws themselves.
We attest that our Motions in court files began to disappear.
That is a proven evidence of corruption.
The Judge who has done so has underestimated us as we got certain proof and protected ourselves against such interference.

9) As of now, all the major branches of the Government are being informed of the Court corruption in protecting debt collectors, rather their powerful lobbying law firms- representatives as the same Judges the same law firms in Courts for years and become friends with them. That is not fiction – Pro Se have no chance not because can’t defend themselves but because the outcome is predetermined by the virtue of which law firm ganged up on them and how well it is connected with the Judges in that Court.
Proof: when the same law firms are forced to appear in a different Court, they usually y loose and are almost ridiculed byte unfamiliar to them Judges.

10) We must admit that corruption is such that so far they all cover up for each other as the direct electives by the district: the Senators:
Karl Cruger and Diane Savino covering our zip code refused to get involved. So much for the myth of these, elected leaders to represent people...

11) Our persistence and active submissions on all levels, including the Media would, nevertheless, produce results as once enough exposure is achieved, the Authorities would respond as have no choice by the wide spread exposure.

12) Your help is right now by submitting evidence to us at:
sharinglights@yahoo.com and here on the board if ok to share with all.

13) It is a long process as it took a while for corruption to materialize; it takes some time to negate it.

14) Believe, learn, try and share and we will prevail; there is no other way.
Never listen to those who have no guts or ability to stand for what is right as they are failures in life and why listen to such. Listen to those who try and make a stand- they will win sooner or later!

The crooks pushed us that far, now we will push them as far back.
The fight is on. They asked for it. Didn’t they?

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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:15 am Post subject:

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If read all posts, a clear picture would appear eventually how these debt colelctors are structured and how they break law.

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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: We are getting closer to real proof. Join the fight.

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[color=indigo]The same owners run the same scam under different names but all lead back to the same origin.
All Sherman names are Sherman Financial, which is the key and central figure/firm of this, debt collection scam.

LVNV Funding LLC was an attempt to get the heat of the "Shermans" as there were too many complaints and some investigations began.
As heat was catching the LVNV, they “switched” to the Resurgent Capital Services.
Below is one of the solid evidence that even the registration on-line leads to the Sherman Financial.
They collect billions of dolalrs that does not benefit the US economy- that benefits them only!
They steel money from working America as far from all are deadbeats as they want us to believe.
If it gets too hot, they will launder monies to offshore to the Swiss banks or such.
The US is loosing monies anyway as these debt collectors are, virtually, mutants without shame ruled by greed and not decent people.
It is outright crime that te US Government allows them to keep steeling monies from average Citizens by virtual extortion.
Urgently, mail any evidence and info on all of them to Sharinglights@Yahoo.com if is private to you.
Public info may be posted here as only public exposure would bring enough attention and Justice upon them when enough people would realize that silence means enabling them to extort even more and laught at all of us.
Would you wake up already?[/color]
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